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            <title>Legal stuff. Question about loan agreement bill</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3422195</link>
            <description>Legal question. This is about loan agreement bill, may I know who should be paying the &amp;#39;Consent to Charge&amp;#39; fee? The vendor or the purchaser? Any smart people out there that can answer this question? Thanks a lot&amp;#33;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Property Talk</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:59:42 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Lawyer fee/ Legal fee over charged How can I check</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3415744</link>
            <description>Hi, I need some help here. I am a purchaser of a house. I noticed that the loan bill doesn&amp;#39;t seems quite right. Anyone that know-all about the legal fees can teach me how to check the Loan agreement bill?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks a lot&amp;#33;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:52:13 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Lee Chong Wei  Drug case</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3408990</link>
            <description>Lee Chong Wei&amp;#39;s drug dope case. So i am just wondering how many people believe him and how many people don&amp;#39;t, and what is the reason?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:34:07 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>List on Penang haunted hotel?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3261831</link>
            <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do anyone have any ghost / haunted / horror stories to share on haunted hotels in Penang?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you&amp;#33;&amp;#33;&amp;#33;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:13:33 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>What have you learn from your lawyer experience?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3239585</link>
            <description>What have you learn from your lawyer experience? Can share the good and bad and what heads up message you have got ?&lt;br /&gt;Can tell or hint which law firm is bad and which law firm is good and efficient even for cheap property below 100k?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 18:00:14 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Your Lawyer experience, Can tell?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3238446</link>
            <description>Can anyone tell their experience with their lawyer firm?&lt;br /&gt;Which lawyer firm has given you good experience of efficiency, good service, prompt feedback and good manners? &lt;br /&gt;Which lawyer firm has given you experience that sucks like nightmare/hell? &lt;br /&gt;If you can&amp;#39;t tell the name of the lawyer firm? Can &amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;HINT&lt;/b&gt;&amp;quot; the Lawyer firm name? and can hint the lawyer name?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Property Talk</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 19:08:05 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>The task carry out by lawyers</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3233217</link>
            <description>Hi, can anyone help me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can anyone tell me what is &amp;quot;ALL&amp;quot; the things/task to be done or carry out by the lawyer during the S&amp;amp;P agreement and the loan agreement process? Anyone professionals can list down the task name for me? thank you very much&amp;#33;&amp;#33;&amp;#33;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A) Task to be carried out by lawyer during S&amp;amp;P agreement &lt;br /&gt;1.&lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;br /&gt;3.&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;br /&gt;5.&lt;br /&gt;6.&lt;br /&gt;7.&lt;br /&gt;8.&lt;br /&gt;9.&lt;br /&gt;10.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B)Task to be carried out by lawyer during loan agreement&lt;br /&gt;1.&lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;br /&gt;3.&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;br /&gt;5.&lt;br /&gt;6.&lt;br /&gt;7.&lt;br /&gt;8.&lt;br /&gt;9.&lt;br /&gt;10.</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Property Talk</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 14:50:40 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Taurus boy,What birthday present for my Taurus bf?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3173231</link>
            <description>What birthday present should I get for my Taurus bf?&lt;br /&gt;Asked him what he want, he say nothing, only wants me  &lt;!--emo&amp;:sweat:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sweat.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I wanna do something special for him.&lt;br /&gt;Tell me what you like, Taurus boys</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Cupid&amp;#39;s Corner</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:46:39 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>FB block on him</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3159693</link>
            <description>This jerk housemate deleted me from his FB when he got back with his ex (1st Dec).&lt;br /&gt;So later I blocked him and his gf.&lt;br /&gt;on Feb 14, I didnt go home and sleep. &lt;br /&gt;Then lately I checked on him by FB using my sis account and realized he deleted his old FB and created a new one with exactly the same name. And because of this my block on him is no more working.&lt;br /&gt;Anyway I inquired him by sms on Feb 15 over my lost heels (1st convo since 1st Dec), could it be he created a new FB account to check and see if I am cursing him on FB over my lost heels? &lt;br /&gt;In his new FB, he shared an article saying &amp;quot;Dare not tell you I really like you because afraid of losing the friendship&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;Then joined a group called &amp;quot;Don&amp;#39;t treat me too good, I may forget to treasure you&amp;quot; &amp;lt;-- refering to his ex?&lt;br /&gt;Anyway his new FB account still publicly showed everyone that he checked into a hotel with his gf. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am just being &amp;quot;8&amp;quot; and gossiping for entertainment. Any comment? &lt;!--emo&amp;:P--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Cupid&amp;#39;s Corner</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:02:38 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Where can I get a cheap coffee grinder?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3146588</link>
            <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do anyone know where can I get a cheap coffee grinder or hemp seeds in KL or Selangor area?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Food &amp;amp; Flavours</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:14:04 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Coffee grinder / Hemp seeds</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3146278</link>
            <description>Hi, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do anyone know where can I get a cheap coffee grinder or hemp seeds in KL or Selangor area?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:53:14 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>What food can melt stubborn belly fat?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3142942</link>
            <description>What food can melt stubborn belly fat?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have strict diet daily, I eat clean food like veges and meat with little fats. I weight 42kg, all parts of me is skinny, except my belly. My belly fat is hanging there, anyone have great knowledge on foods and nutritions? any knowledge on getting rid of stubborn fats?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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            <category>Health &amp;amp; Fitness</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:34:02 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>2014 Marathon</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3128714</link>
            <description>2014 Marathon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanna join 2014 Marathon. Anyone has the schedule or info?&lt;br /&gt;Marathon nearest to Kuala Lumpur is ???</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:30:37 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>What is wrong with him?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3116659</link>
            <description>Since that day he bring home the woman, that day untill now is 1&amp;amp;1/2 month, in this period I just left my body shampoo, face cleanser staying the same in the shower room. Lately I found out his gf quietly using my make-up remover and may be others too, so I took away all my belongings from the bathroom and keep it in my room and then you know what, his gf never come to stay over for more than a week already&amp;#33; I think is the guy that stopped her from coming, could be the guy think his gf have embarrassed him? They are still together. There is this funny thing too, before he reconciled with his gf, I have moved in living with him more than 3 months, at that time the way he uses his bathroom things is he would definitely place it on the same place after use, never once place on a different place from its origin, the next morning from the night I took all my things from the bathroom, he placed his shaver on the place where I used to put my cleanser, the space is too little for his shaver but just right fitting my round bottle, what is he trying to show me? is he trying to say &amp;quot;I am so happy you took all your things away, now I can have all the space&amp;quot;???. Anyway, later that night, the shaver was back to its original place, I guess it was the landlord that puts it back. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next funny incident was, I was cooking in the kitchen and he got back from work, he doesn&amp;#39;t care I was there he just come into the kitchen and have his dinner. So while I was cooking, I am also message chatting with my friend on the phone so it keeps beeping, the thing is his phone beeps too but it is beeping signaling the battery is going off. And later, suddenly I just heard him talking to his gf on the phone while he is eating. So you see his phone did not ring, which could mean he called his gf? I am guessing if it was his gf called him and the phone is on silence mode, will it still beep out the sound to let you know its battery is going off? His mouth is busy eating and he still want to call his gf at that time to chat? Did he purposely do this to let me know his has a gf too? to show me he is very busy chatting too? Man, your phone battery going off leh, still calling gf to purposely chat in front of me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I dont like him anymore, but i am still living in the same house so when sometimes things happen, I can&amp;#39;t avoid but notice, haha. Not long after he bring home the woman, his car died for almost 2 months, each time when his gf come over, his gf car will be here and her shoes will be at the door. He travelled with his motorbike, he never once borrow his gf car on in this 2 months. There is this Sunday night, I drove home my friend car (me and my friend exchange car because she requested) . So I drove home the car and may be he notice and thought I drove home my bf car? The next day on Monday night I already change back to my own car. Then the next day on Tuesday morning 7:30 am, I saw his gf car but his gf shoes is not at the front door (In this 2 month, each time when his gf car is here, her shoes definitely will be at the door), which could mean he borrowed his gf car home right after I borrowed my friend&amp;#39;s car,? He has never borrow his gf car in this 2 month even though his car is dead.&lt;br /&gt;Is it really coincidence? Or is he really doing all this thing on purpose? What is wrong with him? What is his intention? (=__________= ;  )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notes: so 2 months passed since the incident below happened, I am still living under the same roof. We did not contact each other at all, we both avoids each other as much as possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am following up with this story because I am bored, not that I still like him. For those ppl who didn&amp;#39;t know what happened in the past, below is the story: &lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This guy (he is my housemate), the first time I met him, I saw his ex-gf pic still on his phone pic gallery(only 1 pic left, album title: sweetheart). So I asked him if he is over his ex more than 3 times on different occasions. Each time he told me, that he is completely over his ex and there is nothing left to reconcile, and he told me that they are just still friends and there is nothing else between them. (His ex-gf never give up getting back with him (they have been friends for 5 years, in a relationship for 1 year and then break up, she text him almost daily and want him back badly even after 7 months from the break up) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I am with this guy, he always smile when he sees me and always tickle me when he gets to do so. There were 3 times he teased me by acting he wants to kiss me on my lips but each time he pulled back and say that I am really cute and I looked like his baby niece. What he also did is, he raised up his 2 hands to tickle me which looks like he wants to hug me but he did not he just end up tickling me with both hands. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He did caress my face softly before but only once and that time we only know each other for like 2 months only, feeling unable to do the same, I just kinda playfully pat on his cheek too and he complained I didn&amp;#39;t do it softly like he did. And he also fed me dim sum before but not very sweet type like fren type. When we went for movies, I fed him popcorn before and later feeling weird i just stuff him with popcorn like a fren. I stuff him with popcorn then he is not happy and say he will eat by himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One day I was watching tv lying on the sofa, and he was behind the sofa, he lean over and tickle me, stare into my eyes and face to face only like 10cm, but the weird part is I am so calm, my heartbeat didnt run fast, I stare back at him eye to eye even though is just 10cm away, like we were competing... can&amp;#39;t remember who lose though.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another night after we got home from fishing, we fooled around, doesn&amp;#39;t remember how it started though, he bites my finger and lightly tasted it with his tongue and then he just pulled back and made a light spitting and complained it is salty. He also rubbed his nose against my nose but did not kiss me at that moment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I look at him and give him a big white sparkling teeth smile. He doesnt have very neat teeth and I am insensitive that this might make him feel bad. One day he mentioned to &amp;quot;bong nga&amp;quot; &amp;lt;-- make his teeth look neat. He says he regretted taking it off when he was a kid, because is really painful he says. I told him while I sayang his face softly and say &amp;quot;no need la, you should invest those money in your company&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One more thing is, I had bought a new samsung smartphone (I used an old Nokia model before this) and then around after 3 weeks of buying the smartphone, one day he showed me that &amp;quot;Wechat&amp;quot; app has a fun thing that is &amp;quot;throw the message bottle into the sea and someone is going to pick up&amp;quot;, he purposely opened this and showed me a message he throwed out into the sea which says &amp;quot;我喜歡上妳了&amp;quot; (I like you&amp;#33;), at that moment I was still innocently thinking that this is funny app/game and didn&amp;#39;t think anything more. But after like 2 days, my intuition just recalled this and think, may be? or is he trying to tell me something with that message?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He works on the weekends too, from 9am to 5 or 8pm. He did ask me before what I did or how I spend my weekends. I would tell him I spend with my mom etc. There is once I asked him if he want to join me swimming at night, he says he is gonna come home late so I reply ok then. I just went myself without thinking there is a need to tell him, I went alone. Then when I got home he asked “why am I so late home” so I told/explain him I went swimming (30 mins driveway &amp;amp; parking etc, 1 hour swim then 30 mins shower then 30mins drive). His face was sour that night and he is quietly watching his tv so I went bed early because feeling his quietness. At times, he would took my phone and check on those chatting apps and see what I chat with other guys, since I do like him and think he wants to feel secure so I just let him check (when he checks, I am usually there too). He sends pictures like fat ugly pig, ugly fat woman, “nah”(middle finger) to a guy that openly says he is after me. He even replies the guys with rude messages until they stop talking to me. I told him that he is rude. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each time we went out, he offers to pays for my everything from RM1~RM70, includes food, CDs, laundry money, theme park ticket, movie ticket, hair salon, I asked him why, he answered me, this is the manly gesture culture in this country. One day, my car battery break down, he fix it and got me a car battery which cost RM180, which I think is expensive, since he is not officially my boyfriend yet and I know he has some debt burden and I want to lighten his burden, I messaged him how much twice, he didnt reply me with a price. After 4 hours, he answered something else &amp;quot;Your car battery is broken&amp;quot; which is &amp;quot;fei wa&amp;quot; and has nothing to tell me about the car battery price. So when I met him at dinner that same night, his face was sour, and he doesnt want to look at me at all for the whole time, we were talking but he never want to look at me. Even when he look at me for a short while, there is no smile at all. Can anyone tell me what is wrong? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That dinner night, I haven&amp;#39;t pay him back the battery money because I think he is pissed off. 1 day later, I told him I want to ask him a question to make sure/confirm of something, he came home very late and sounded quite rude in his speech so I didn&amp;#39;t ask him that question I wanted to ask, I went to sleep without saying a word or good night to him and he doesn&amp;#39;t say a word too. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He is my housemate. 3 days after the above matter happened, he brought his ex-gf into his room and they both slept for the whole day. I knocked on his room door, asked if he has brought his gf and if she is sleeping in his room? I made a small scene at his door but no big drama. Later when I saw his gf in the kitchen dinner, I said hello to her, she just smiled and say nothing back. And I pay that guy back the battery money right in front of her. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next day, he deleted me from facebook and he sounded angry at home even when his gf is not around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FYI, What I have done for him:&lt;br /&gt;I know he kept in contact with his ex. Because they went drinking, and it was him that told me that. &lt;br /&gt;And he says is just friendship so I just trust him (I thought Trust is what man really appreciate, No?)&lt;br /&gt;I did bought him gifts (face mask and lotions), I cleaned up his blackheads for him,&lt;br /&gt;I massages his face with face toner and serum. &lt;br /&gt;I gave him massages on his shoulder and back. I wash his dishes.&lt;br /&gt;I bought his favourite fruits for him, I sewed his broken bag.&lt;br /&gt;I ordered a gifts from Japan planning to surprise him on Christmas. &lt;br /&gt;I did show him I am jealous when other girls make a move on him.</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Cupid&amp;#39;s Corner</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:34:17 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Sleeping over</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3113762</link>
            <description>Before the break up, the guy stay over at the girl house, one month only return home 1 or 2 time. Now they got back together aka reconciled, the situation became completely opposite, the girl come stay over 5/7 or 6/7. The guy is like 0/7 or 1/30 stay in the girl house. The guy PC is dead, he never even care to repair, his room is messy, dirty and smelly. So his place is really not that comfortable, yet the girl stay over at the guy place so much and the guy didnt take much effort to stay at the girl house like before. What does this mean? How much do the guy care/like/love the girl? Is like the girl is making 80% of the effort. What would you say or think of this man?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>Cupid&amp;#39;s Corner</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:49:58 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Tarots</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3090503</link>
            <description>What do u know or think of Tarots card? Share anything you know/comment/opinion about it</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:25:35 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Too much pain in life = Now couldn&amp;#39;t feel anymore</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3085752</link>
            <description>Is there anyone out there that have had a very horrible/sad/unlucky/painful life that had caused too much pain which now this person is numb towards life/love/feelings. No matter what the pain is or how a person hurt you. You couldn&amp;#39;t feel the pain anymore? Your heart is just numb? Anyone living this life? Can share your story?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2014 09:05:45 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>For Christians Only</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3083221</link>
            <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Made this for christians buddy.&lt;br /&gt;Thank God, Love God, what ever u wanna share to encourage each other with Gods word etc.</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:25:58 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Can christian believe in Feng Shui?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3083176</link>
            <description>Can christian believe in Feng Shui?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:51:48 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Black Magic</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3083008</link>
            <description>Can Anyone tell me about black magic?&lt;br /&gt;Or do you or your family or friends have such experience?</description>
            <author>ice_cliche</author>
            <category>The Museum Of Kopitiam</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:45:52 +0800</pubDate>
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