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            <title>♪♥ Nokia 5800 XpressMusic a.k.a &amp;quot;TUBE&amp;quot; V7 ♥♪</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/922604</link>
            <description>&lt;img src='http://img.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/nokia-5800-xpressmusic-2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Introduction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Announced at Nokia&amp;#39;s Remix event in London, at the beginning of October 2008, the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is a mid-range, music focused phone, running S60 5th&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edition on Symbian OS 9.4, with a 3.2 megapixel camera, integrated GPS, WiFi and HSDPA connectivity, and a 3.2 inch touch screen. It&amp;#39;s the last item on this feature list&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;which draws attention to what would otherwise be a fairly standard mid range phone. For the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is one of Nokia&amp;#39;s most widely talked about (and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;leaked) phones of recent memory. There&amp;#39;s no doubt that it is going to garner attention, coming in the wake of the recent spate of touch phones, including, of course, the&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apple iPhone. While it&amp;#39;s not Nokia&amp;#39;s first touch phone (Nokia 7700/7110) or its first recent touch device (Nokia N810), it is the first S60 touch enabled phone and is a&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;significant landmark in Nokia&amp;#39;s mobile device story. However, it is worth noting from the start that it is not &amp;quot;Nokia&amp;#39;s touch phone&amp;quot;, instead it is the first in a portfolio of&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;touch enabled phones from Nokia. This is an important distinction because, while the 5800 can tell us much about Nokia&amp;#39;s touch platform generally, it can only be fairly&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;assessed in the context of its own market positioning (music focused, cost of 279 Euro before taxes and subsidies).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4149/58001fq1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;General Design and Hardware&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 5800, at 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, is a reasonably small package. It is similar in size to the N78 (113 x 49 x 15.1 mm), but slightly heavier at 109g versus 102g.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Volume wise, the 5800 is bigger at 83 cc compared to the N78 at 76.5 cc; it does feel bigger in the hand, mainly due to the greater taper on its edges. While the 5800 is&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;significantly bigger than the typical mid-range phone and would do well to be thinner, it compares favourably to other smartphones and does not feel over sized.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks to its relatively narrow width it is, proportionally, closer to the traditional candy bar shape (long rectangle) than most touch screen based phones (short&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;rectangle). If you think of your typical candybar smartphone, remove the keypad and lengthen the screen and you&amp;#39;ll get pretty close to the feel of the 5800. The key&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;advantage of this shape is that, for most people, it will be possible to use the device with just one hand; even those with smaller fingers should be able to reach all&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;points on the screen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9184/5800cameraim8.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 3.2 megapixel camera focuses well and takes great pictures in daylight -- indoors is likely a different story, as with most cameraphones, but there&amp;#39;s a rather&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;powerful dual LED flash to help out with that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9831/5800web2gh5.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of this -- in addition to things like GPS, WiFi and a side-loading microSD slot (there&amp;#39;s a free 8GB card included) -- are wrapped up into an elongated, chubby package,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hence the Tube moniker. We&amp;#39;d hate to have something of its shape and thickness in a tight jeans front pocket on a regular basis, but we must admit that it&amp;#39;s very&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;comfortable to hold and use with a single hand, something that can&amp;#39;t be said for all touchscreen phones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Software&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&amp;#39;s S60, so if you were hoping for something else you&amp;#39;ll be sorely disappointed. Nokia&amp;#39;s done &amp;quot;just enough&amp;quot; to turn the traditional interface into a touchable one with&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;version 5.0, sizing up icons, adding finger-friendly buttons in lieu of traditional menu items and so forth. What Nokia hasn&amp;#39;t quite figured out is consistency, requiring&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;double taps in some places, single taps in others. Scrolling through most lists requires dragging a scroll bar, pulling down as the list flies up, but the browser has touch &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and drag scrolling. Nothing&amp;#39;s too frustrating or unreasonable, but this is no seamless experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5669/58002di0.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&amp;#39;s new is a touch-sensitive button above the screen that drops down the Media Bar for access to music, movies, photos, the browser and sharing. Not life changing, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but quite convenient. There&amp;#39;s also a new home screen with a &amp;quot;Fav Four&amp;quot; of sorts across the top and little else. Tap that friend, and you can get a quick look at recent &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;calls, messages and even related RSS feeds. Pretty neat if you&amp;#39;re a loner, but there&amp;#39;s no way to add more than four friends, or view similar info for your regular &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;contacts that don&amp;#39;t make the cut. Luckily, the traditional S60 home screen is also available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3866/5800inputzn1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For text input you have four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The first two are stylus-based (that mini &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;QWERTY is truly mini), while the other two are only available in landscape and portrait modes, respectively. Like we said in the hardware end of things, the resistive &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;touch means using the tips of your fingers instead of the pads, which we find a tad frustrating, but the keyboard in landscape mode is truly gargantuan, and after an &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hour or two of learning we&amp;#39;re guessing you could rattle off some pretty lengthly emails or Great American Novels. Luckily, if you&amp;#39;re a T9 fan there&amp;#39;s nothing stopping you &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;from keeping the phone in portrait mode and rattling off text messages with the touchable alphanumeric keypad, and the phone is frankly too narrow to work well with &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;QWERTY in portrait. The handwriting recognition looks good enough, but we revert to a 2nd grade writing level whenever we pick up a pen, so that stylus is staying &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;firmly in its holster. We&amp;#39;re not convinced the touchable browser is a step up over existing WebKit implementations on Nokia&amp;#39;s other handsets, since the tap to zoom &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;function is slow and unreliable -- and no, you can&amp;#39;t select text from web pages to copy and paste. Panning around the page is also jittery, perhaps a tad worse than the &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off iPhone smooth yet in this department. We were using a slightly early software build, so some of these problems might be fixed in &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the final version, but it wasn&amp;#39;t encouraging. Still, there&amp;#39;s no denying the advantages of viewing the web on a 640 x 360 LCD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3753/5800gameme8.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We tested out an accelerometer-based driving game, but it was overly sensitive and no-fun-at-all -- though we&amp;#39;re guessing that wouldn&amp;#39;t be a hard fix. The graphics &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;looked pretty good, though. Movies are potentially this phone&amp;#39;s killer app, but you&amp;#39;ll have to do the conversion just right to get smooth playback at full resolution. We did &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;see some video shot with the phone (that Sea World shot in the gallery) and it looked pretty good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you haven&amp;#39;t picked it up by now, Nokia isn&amp;#39;t going after the power users here. The phone will be marketed under Nokia&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Live&amp;quot; banner, and really concentrates on the &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;most basic communications -- calling and texting -- with a whole bunch of multimedia piled on top. Nokia&amp;#39;s Comes With Music helps on that end of things, and the screen &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;certainly helps with video, but this is no iPhone when it comes to to solid media integration or full-featured media player apps. On the communication side, we&amp;#39;re sad to &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;see Nokia almost burying some of its S60 advantages. Everything&amp;#39;s still there, but Nokia didn&amp;#39;t put the gruntwork in necessary to really take advantage a next-gen &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;interface as it relates to keeping track of emails, social networking, IM and the correspondences of more than four people. All that said, Nokia isn&amp;#39;t claiming that the &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5800 is the be all end all, is releasing it with a very aggressive price point (€279 unlocked), and promises more where this came from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:blue'&gt;Info quoted from www.Engadget.com while photos are courtesy of www.Sogi.com.tw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:blue'&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Spec:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--SPOILER BEGIN--&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;spoilertop&quot; onClick=&quot;openClose('7661d8b982bd7fbbdbc55a75d6cb8387')&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&amp;raquo; Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... &amp;laquo;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;spoilermain&quot; id=&quot;7661d8b982bd7fbbdbc55a75d6cb8387&quot; style=&quot;display:none&quot;&gt;&lt;!--SPOILER END--&gt;&lt;span style='color:red'&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'&gt;General&lt;br /&gt;- 2G Network | GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900&lt;br /&gt;- 3G Network | HSDPA 900 / 2100 | HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version&lt;br /&gt;- Announced 2008, October&lt;br /&gt;- Status | Available. Released 2008, November&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Size 	&lt;br /&gt;- Dimensions | 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, 83 cc&lt;br /&gt;- Weight | 109 g&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Display&lt;br /&gt;- Type | TFT touchscreen, 16M colors&lt;br /&gt;- Size | 360 x 640 pixels, 3.2 inches&lt;br /&gt;- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off&lt;br /&gt;- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate&lt;br /&gt;- Handwriting recognition&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ringtones 	&lt;br /&gt;- Type | Polyphonic (64 channels), MP3&lt;br /&gt;- Customization 	Download&lt;br /&gt;- Vibration | Yes&lt;br /&gt;- Stereo speakers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Memory&lt;br /&gt;- Phonebook | Practically unlimited entries and fields, &lt;br /&gt;- Photocall&lt;br /&gt;- Call records | Detailed, max 30 days&lt;br /&gt;- Card slot | microSD (TransFlash), up to 16GB, 8GB included, buy memory&lt;br /&gt;- 81 MB internal memory&lt;br /&gt;- 128 MB SDRAM memory&lt;br /&gt;- ARM 11 369 MHz CPU&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Data &lt;br /&gt;- GPRS | Class 32&lt;br /&gt;- HSCSD | Yes&lt;br /&gt;- EDGE | Class 32&lt;br /&gt;- 3G | HSDPA, 3.6 Mbps&lt;br /&gt;- WLAN | Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UPnP technology&lt;br /&gt;- Bluetooth | Yes, v2.0 with A2DP&lt;br /&gt;- Infrared port | No&lt;br /&gt;- USB | Yes, v2.0 microUSB&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Features&lt;br /&gt;- OS | Symbian OS v9.4, Series 60 rel. 5&lt;br /&gt;- Messaging | SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging&lt;br /&gt;- Browser | WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds&lt;br /&gt;- Games | Yes + Java downloadable, order now&lt;br /&gt;- Colors | Black, Red, Blue&lt;br /&gt;- Camera 	3.15 MP, 2048 x 1536 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, video(VGA@30fps), flash; secondary videocall camera&lt;br /&gt;- Built-in GPS receiver&lt;br /&gt;- A-GPS support&lt;br /&gt;- Nokia Maps 2.0 Touch&lt;br /&gt;- Java MIDP 2.0&lt;br /&gt;- MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ player&lt;br /&gt;- MPEG4/WMV/3gp video player&lt;br /&gt;- Stereo FM radio with RDS&lt;br /&gt;- TV out&lt;br /&gt;- 3.5 mm audio output jack&lt;br /&gt;- Voice command/dial&lt;br /&gt;- Document viewer&lt;br /&gt;- T9&lt;br /&gt;- Photo editor&lt;br /&gt;- Built-in handsfree&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Battery&lt;br /&gt;- Standard battery, Li-Ion 1320 mAh(BL-5J)&lt;br /&gt;- Stand-by | Up to 406 h&lt;br /&gt;- Talk time | Up to 8 h 45 min&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--SPOILER DIV--&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--SPOILER DIV--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:blue'&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'&gt;What&amp;#39;s in the box&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/madman20/5800box.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Official Retail Price: RM1499&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Original Distributor: Zitron, Avaxx, Sapura)&lt;br /&gt;Bargain and sourcing around, you might get a better price, approx RM12xx-RM13xx.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Screen Protectors For Our Beloved Tubes [sorted according to price (lowest - highest)]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Skool &lt;a href='http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/824798' target='_blank'&gt;LYN Seller&lt;/a&gt; RM 6 (Screen &amp;amp; Camera Only)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Martin Fields Overlay Plus &lt;a href='http://www.overlayplus.com/dis_product.asp?model=Nokia_5800XM&amp;modeln=5800%20XpressMusic&amp;prod_type=screen' target='_blank'&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; ; &lt;a href='http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/280603' target='_blank'&gt;LYN Seller&lt;/a&gt; RM 50 (Screen, Camera &amp;amp; Flash Only)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ZAGG invisibleSHIELD &lt;a href='http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/nokia-5800-xpressmusic-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php' target='_blank'&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; ; &lt;a href='http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/924771' target='_blank'&gt;LYN Seller&lt;/a&gt; RM 60 (Whole Body), RM 30 (Screen Only)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'&gt;ALL SPs ABOVE HAVE PRE CUT HOLES FOR THE PROXIMITY SENSOR...&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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            <category>Mobile Phones and Tablets</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:39:50 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>88X31 buttons for LYN</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/866320</link>
            <description>Hey, any idea where I can get 88X31 buttons for LYN to put on my blog? preferably for both LYN and the forum...</description>
            <author>ridzyroo</author>
            <category>Feedback and Helpdesk</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:48 +0800</pubDate>
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