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        <title>Lowyat.NET: Latest topics by nistelrooy_sam</title>
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            <title>how to start?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1411198</link>
            <description>currently i just got a title for my fyp. i am doing soccer strategy and statistic analysis. My supervisor asked me to look into data warehouse + data mining. I learnt ERD + SQL queries last year and i do not have any knowledge on data warehouse + data mining. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;from wat i understand.. data warehouse&amp;#39;s data cannot be modified and it gets data from different supplier. Now i need to get football/soccer statistic from different source. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i have 3 questions:&lt;br /&gt;1) How to get data from different source(xml??)&lt;br /&gt;2)can i do data mining on my data in ERD?&lt;br /&gt;3)how to start data warehouse + data mining?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;any comments/ inputs from you are appreciated.  &lt;!--emo&amp;:lol:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Codemasters</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:57:42 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Software Engineering(FYP TITLE CONFIRMED)</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1392864</link>
            <description>Currently i am doing software engineering degree in college and i am given some time to think about project title. I need some advise from those who already completed their degree or u guys have good idea to share. Any interesting projects or problems that i should solve in the real world?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanna to avoid these following titles:&lt;br /&gt;-Reservation system&lt;br /&gt;-Online ticketing&lt;br /&gt;-Online cinema&lt;br /&gt;-Online Purchase system&lt;br /&gt;-or any linear projects which onli requires me to add/edit/update/delete.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I already seek my supervisor and she said i need to produce something special in order to get 1st class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I need some advises and any list of titles that i should look at.  &lt;!--emo&amp;:respect:--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='notworthy.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don mind learning new programming language if i have to...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-will talk about my details of my fyp here. will update ASAP-</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Codemasters</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:18:48 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Recommend me 7.1 PC speakers</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/0</link>
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            <category>Hardware</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 07:30:00 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Recommend me 7.1 PC speakers</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1347460</link>
            <description>Recommend me 7.1 PC speakers and below RM 1,500. Creative, Logitech and Altec Lansing.  &lt;!--emo&amp;:)--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
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            <category>Audiophiles</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:53:59 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>can JAVA draw out 3D cake for me?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1251888</link>
            <description>can JAVA draw out 3D cake for me? coz i find VB easier to do but I already submitted my proposal long time ago. It has to be done using java coz i onli can code using VB.NET, JAVA, C++. coz onli have a few more weeks to produce a functional prototype...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;my application is something like the pictures shown below&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Step 1&lt;br /&gt;Provide user... personal customized cake application&lt;br /&gt;[attachmentid=1343190]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Step ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Step 4&lt;br /&gt;show the cake 2D here and allow user to use using some drawing tools to customize the cake. Place the msg at particular position...  &lt;br /&gt;[attachmentid=1343191]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Step 5&lt;br /&gt;Allow PREVIEW cake 3D....&lt;br /&gt;[attachmentid=1343192]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JAVA have all these functions? don ask me to use flash to do coz limited time to do. else.... Can VB application can be done like Java Applet?</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Codemasters</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:05:18 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>how to limit internet bandwidth for each PC</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1222268</link>
            <description>is there any software or configuration or software to limit each pc internet bandwidth ? coz my mom always watch video streaming videos. i have lagging problem when playing some online games. currently using 2mbps and i wish to limit my mom&amp;#39;s bandwidth.  how? any methods?</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Technical Support</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:00:48 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>about this motherboard for i7</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1193252</link>
            <description>Currently using this com with following specs&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:red'&gt;i7 860 &lt;br /&gt;MSI P55 GD 65 &lt;br /&gt;4GB RAM &lt;br /&gt;WD 640GB &lt;br /&gt;CM 690 &lt;br /&gt;PIONEER DVDRW &lt;br /&gt;ATI RADEON HD5850 &lt;br /&gt;XIGMATEK 650W MODULAR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i heard alot stories about MOBO failure for MSI MOBO. true or not?? MSI brand no good?</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Hardware</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:11:05 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Intel i7</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1181866</link>
            <description>my new com &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i7 860 &lt;br /&gt;MSI P55 GD 65 &lt;br /&gt;4GB RAM &lt;br /&gt;WD 640GB &lt;br /&gt;CM 690 &lt;br /&gt;PIONEER DVDRW &lt;br /&gt;HD5850 RM940 [even faster than a gtx285,what more gtx260+]&lt;br /&gt;XIGMATEK 650W MODULAR&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;will i need to pay alot to TNB if i on this PC 24 hour a day?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Hardware</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:45:21 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>assemble a gaming PC without monitor and HDD</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1135800</link>
            <description>assemble a gaming PC without monitor and HDD&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;wat are the specs? i need a graphic card to play games. include build in sound card lo in motherboard.</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Price &amp;amp; Dealers Guide</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:38:44 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>ASP.net(VISUAL BASIC) + SQL SERVER</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1090890</link>
            <description>current i am doing managing tour assignment. Using ASP.net and the lang is visual basic&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--QuoteBegin--&gt;&lt;div class='quotetop'&gt;QUOTE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='quotemain'&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEBegin--&gt;i want to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1)Validate the start time and end time . coz the criteria of the tour must be more than 3 days and less than 18 days.&lt;b&gt;[SOLVED]&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:16pt;line-height:100%'&gt;2) How to make sure  person X cannot go&amp;nbsp; more than 1 tour in a time duration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Example, Person X going to a tour at 11 July 2009 till 16 july 2009.  My system should not allow the person to book a tour around that time period . HOW TO SOLVE?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) will update the things i am unsure  soon&lt;!--QuoteEnd--&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEEnd--&gt;</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Codemasters</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:13:12 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>size of object for inheritance class different</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1069547</link>
            <description>Admin is a Person(is-a-relationship). Person is my abstract class(base class) and admin is my derived class. Admin inherits from Person class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i checked the sizeOf(Admin) b4 storing the object into file. The size b4 storing is 332. After storing into file, it becomes 333.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am able to search 1st object and able to display details for that object. But i cannot display details after 1st object.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--QuoteBegin--&gt;&lt;div class='quotetop'&gt;QUOTE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='quotemain'&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEBegin--&gt;admin myAdmin; //I called my derived class object&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;sizeof(admin); //output = 332;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;fstream file(&amp;quot;admin.txt&amp;quot;, ios::app); //I dont create a text file in my folder, app mode will help me create the text file&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;file.write(reinterpret_cast&amp;lt;char *&amp;gt;(&amp;amp;myAdmin), sizeof(admin)); //I store my object &amp;quot;myAdmin&amp;quot; to my &amp;quot;admin.txt&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cout&amp;lt;&amp;lt;file.tellp; //but here show my writing/storing pointer &amp;quot;tellp()&amp;quot; is giving me the object i store in the file is 333 but suppose my &amp;quot;sizeof(admin)&amp;quot; is 332.&lt;!--QuoteEnd--&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEEnd--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;if i continue to storing with this method, while i am doing the search with below this coding, I face the reading pointer is not correctly point to the object.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;int input; //this is the input for me to prompt user to input ID number to search in the file&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--QuoteBegin--&gt;&lt;div class='quotetop'&gt;QUOTE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='quotemain'&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEBegin--&gt;cin&amp;gt;&amp;gt;input;&lt;br /&gt;cin.get();&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;admin myAdmin;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;fstream file(&amp;quot;admin.txt&amp;quot;, ios::in);&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;file.seekg((input - 1) * sizeof(admin)); //this is for me to point to the correct object because i am saving in ascending order, so my ID &lt;br /&gt;                                                        //number shouldn&amp;#39;t mix up. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;file.read(reinterpret_cast&amp;lt;char*&amp;gt;(&amp;amp;myAdmin), sizeof(admin)); //while &amp;quot;input is 1&amp;quot; it doesn&amp;#39;t shows the problem, but while the &amp;quot;input is more than 1&amp;quot;, &lt;br /&gt;                                                                                       //the pointer doesn&amp;#39;t point to the correct object, so while using the object data will error.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cout&amp;lt;&amp;lt;myAdmin.getname(); //if input is 2 this will encounter problem, cannot display. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEnd--&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--QuoteEEnd--&gt;</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Codemasters</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:20:17 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>CRYSIS 2 (PS3) coming tis yeaR&amp;#33;</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1049598</link>
            <description>After years of hints and tech-demo teases, the Crysis series is finally headed to consoles. This morning, Electronic Arts and German developer Crytek announced the development of Crysis 2 for the PC, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3. The game will be the first console title that the notoriously PC-centric studio will develop directly for consoles, having let Ubisoft develop the console spin-offs for its groundbreaking 2004 first-person shooter Far Cry. Ubisoft bought the Far Cry IP outright in 2006. No release date was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All good things come to those who wait, ja?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;The development of Crysis 2 marks a major stepping stone for our studio,&amp;quot; said Crytek CEO and President Cevat Yerli in a statement. &amp;quot;This is not only the next game in the Crysis franchise, it&amp;#39;s the first title we are developing for consoles and the first title being built on CryEngine 3.&amp;quot; In March, the CryEngine3 was shown off on the 360 and PS3 to Game Developers Conference attendees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As part of today&amp;#39;s announcement, EA and Crytek also announced that they were extending their strategic partnership forged in 2004. The deal came shortly after Far Cry became both a critical and commercial hit on the PC for Ubisoft, which EA still owns one fifth of. The deal is part of the EA Partners program, which lets developers pick and choose marketing, sales, and development-support services from the megapublisher. Current EA Partners and games include Harmonix (Rock Band), Valve (The Orange Box and Left 4 Dead), Grasshopper Manufacture (Unnamed PC/PS3/360/Wii project), and Epic Games (Untitled People Can Fly Project).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on Crysis 2, check out GameSpot&amp;#39;s video stream and live blog of EA&amp;#39;s E3 2009 Press Conference at 2 p.m. PDT/10 p.m. BST this afternoon, straight from the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clips&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:red'&gt;CryEngine 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[YOUTUBE]&amp;lt;object width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;movie&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/1Kvl31g77Z8&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowFullScreen&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowscriptaccess&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;embed src=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/1Kvl31g77Z8&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;&amp;quot; type=&amp;quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&amp;quot; allowscriptaccess=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot; allowfullscreen=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/embed&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/object&amp;gt;[/YOUTUBE]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:red'&gt;CryEngine AT GDC 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[YOUTUBE]&amp;lt;object width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;movie&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/-D9oINHI11E&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowFullScreen&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowscriptaccess&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;embed src=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/-D9oINHI11E&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;&amp;quot; type=&amp;quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&amp;quot; allowscriptaccess=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot; allowfullscreen=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/embed&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/object&amp;gt;[/YOUTUBE]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style='color:red'&gt;CryEngine AT GDC 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[YOUTUBE]&amp;lt;object width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;movie&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/zZtlKcAt0PM?fs=1&amp;amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowFullScreen&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowscriptaccess&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;embed src=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/zZtlKcAt0PM?fs=1&amp;amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;quot; type=&amp;quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&amp;quot; allowscriptaccess=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot; allowfullscreen=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/embed&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/object&amp;gt;[/YOUTUBE]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[YOUTUBE]&amp;lt;object width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;movie&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/Vv1VkmbgnOs?fs=1&amp;amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowFullScreen&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=&amp;quot;allowscriptaccess&amp;quot; value=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;embed src=&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/Vv1VkmbgnOs?fs=1&amp;amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;quot; type=&amp;quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&amp;quot; allowscriptaccess=&amp;quot;always&amp;quot; allowfullscreen=&amp;quot;true&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;640&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;385&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/embed&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/object&amp;gt;[/YOUTUBE]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Screenshots&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href='http://ve3d.ign.com/images/fullsize/69973/PC/Crysis-2/Screenshots/April-9th-Screenshot' target='_blank'&gt;Screenshots link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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            <category>Playstation</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:44:23 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>2nd hand psp for sales</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/770365</link>
            <description>i will sell you RM 1000 if you buy 2 of my psp.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My 1st psp to sell is 1st generation with 4gb high-speed memory with 3 original games. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-romance of three kingdom(chinese game)&lt;br /&gt;-Championship manager&lt;br /&gt;-FIFA 06&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RM 500&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;2nd psp for sale is slim and lite version comes with 4gb high speed memory&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RM 550&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;pm if you are interested.</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Playstation</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:39:41 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>Blind Date, meet up at times sq</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/0</link>
            <description></description>
            <category>Cupid&amp;#39;s Corner</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 07:30:00 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>who wants to buy 2nd hand PSP</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/769954</link>
            <description>psp not available</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Playstation</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:21:04 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>-</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/769851</link>
            <description>nothing here</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Events and Gatherings</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:10:46 +0800</pubDate>
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            <title>which PC speaker should i buy for Xbox?</title>
            <link>http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/754914</link>
            <description>I wanna to get PC speakers for xbox 360? Budget RM 400. And i want 5.1 speaker with optical..........&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;any choices????? recommend me  &lt;!--emo&amp;:)--&gt;&lt;img src='http://static.lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /&gt;&lt;!--endemo--&gt;</description>
            <author>nistelrooy_sam</author>
            <category>Xbox</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:19:05 +0800</pubDate>
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