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[WTS] Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Jonno — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:27:39 +0800

Item(s): Samsung Galaxy Edge S6

Package includes: Everything in original box, box sealed & unopened.

Price: RM2250 ONO

Warranty: Yet to be activated, still 12 months

Dealing method: COD (Damansara Perdana Area)

Location of seller: Damansara Perdana

Contact method/details: PM for contact number

Age of item: Brand new

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Item(s) conditions: Brand new, box unopened.

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Reason for sale: Won in contest, not an android user.

Glory Hunter

Jonno — Tue, 12 May 2009 01:08:01 +0800

It has been well documented that there are lots of Glory hunters around and we don't like them, but, my take is these posts in the LFC thread earlier.

QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 11 2009, 03:14 PM)

No doubt Manchester United is a great club and i have great respect for some of their players such as Giggs, RVN, Ronaldo. Eventhough they were winning numerous titles and cups back in the 90s i didn't really bother much about as i only perceive Man u as another good football team just as i think of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Ajax or Madrid back then.

Things, however changed drastically in 1999. After their shocking last gasp victory over Bayern Munich in CL Final that year, the MAN U fanboom exploded and the hype was spreading like wildfire. Some of my friends who doesn't know jack shit or watch football suddenly begin supporting Manchester United. And yet the appalling thing is, they couldn't even name more than 3 players in their favorite team. They will tell you Cantona is from Spain. They start asking you what jersey color is Man u players because they can recognize their team. They couldn't differentiate between Butt, Scholes and Solskjaer because all three of them have the same haircut. And the next minute you know, Beckham with his Armani looks, starts to pull the girl audience into football. People who don't like football suddenly likes football by swearing their short allegiance to Manchester United. Manchester United jersey become the latest COOL toy to have among youngsters and schoolboys alongside Nike AIR JORDAN and Sony playstation.

Soon after, commercialism creeps in and Man U cafes, Man U TV, Man U shops started to mushroom one by one all over the world. In fact, without realizing it, Manchester United has bring EPL to the mainstream and transformed the club into a cultural icon. Not a bad move from the finance perspective as other clubs follow suit. More and more Man U fans appeared out of nowhere with more than 70% of them still doesn't know who the heck is Alex Ferguson and yet they claimed that they support Man United.

That is when i realized that it is the prawn sandwich fans that is making my blood boil not the team itself. Of course, having said that I believe there are a lot of "genuine" Man Utd fans out there who support the team wholeheartedly and not just in for Beckhamania or Ronaldo's flashy stepovers. Sad but truth but this is what Manchester fans have become nowadays.....just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(Jonno @ May 11 2009, 03:37 PM)

Actually, they were at it before hand, George Best was the first pop star footballer, and before Beckham, Giggs was the poster boy for Man U, and before Giggs, there's a certain Lee Sharpe who was the poster boy. Still it didn't beat Beckhamania and now Charliemania (Charlie Ronaldo, after I got ban numerous time for calling him C*** Ronaldo, now I prefer Charlie, or if you prefer, crybaby, after last night's tantrum). If I get ban for calling him Charlie

In a way, I do agree with you, the popularity of Premier League has let to many people making good "investments" when they get good "returns" from staking the kids' college funds (or the months' allowance for younger ones) on it, which also led them to "follow" the teams, whomever it may be, which also leads to them "following" different teams as lately different teams has won the league. Which is also a reason you see lots of people wearing Blackburn shirts after 1995/96 season when they won the league thanks to Uncle Jack's (for those who don't know him, there's this things called Wikipedia and google) money and Shearer's goals.

The main thing that gets me, honestly, that these glory hunters (again, not targeting anyone) do not bother to look up information of the club. I mean, with advancement of technology, all it takes is to sit in front of the PC for about an hour, look it up in Wikipedia (or the club site, but that might be too long and difficult, some of these glory hunters have problem reading long sentences, which makes this post safe) and all you need to know about the club in a nutshell will be there, then maybe, they will somehow find a connection with the team and become a true supporter.

If a girl can do that and learn about Liverpool, then tell me that she cannot consider herself a Liverpool fan after reading about the club in Wikipedia, because of the connection and passion she read so much about the team, and can talk to me about things concerning the club and even discuss it. Then where does it puts these so called glory hunting fans?

"Followers" that is, that's what they are, they just follow, without knowing anything.
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I know the sentiments and that this might cause a big war, but we are here to discuss it, you you ok with it? Why? Do you despise it? Why? How would you classify one as that? How you try not to get the tag of a glory hunter?

Most importantly, how come there are so many of these Charlies here?

What makes a fan a fan?

Jonno — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:21:06 +0800

Been thinking about writing this for a while now, the amount of football on TV has obviously created masses of followers or fans around the globe. However, while there are many who would call themselves fans or followers or supporters? What makes them a fan?

Talk to anyone, you'll get different answers, but one of the answer you are likely to get from them would be "Because they are the best.", ie they are the top of the league, hence the "Glory Hunters" was born.

Like it or not, living in Malaysia, many of us started following a team when they are on top, The Liverpool fans in the 70's and 80's, Man U in the 90's, Chelsea and Arsenal recently. Of course, not forgetting there ARE fans out there who supported a particular team because they lived in that area when they were studying in UK, or they liked a particular player, hence following that team. I've known some hardcore I mean hardcore Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa or even Southamton supporters. Respect to them, most of the time, these are the people who knows their football, love their team, look them up the net as they games are not shown regularly on TV here. AS compared to the likes of the Big 4 supporters. The thing is out of the big 4, the biggest rivalry, like back in the UK, is between Liverpool and Man U. I am not going to hide, I am a big big Liverpool supporter. But this is not about Liverpool Vs Man U, but football fans in general.

I respect fans of any club, but I despise any glory hunter. I mean, I started supporting the team after the last league championship, 17 years ago. Through the dark days of no league triumph and little cup success until the recent times when we won everything else bar the league.

What I am trying to say is that I stick by my team although it's easier to switch to a more "fashionable" team such as Man U. After all they have the "in" players such as Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney, Fletcher, Brown and many more. Ok, the last 2 was made up. Instead of switching team, I look up the history of the club, what it meant to stand on the kop, what it emant to win (yet) another European Cup, what the rivalry is all about. Rather than switching team, which I know many have done, why not find out more about your own team.

I ahve also heard many said that "history is not important", bollocks! History is not about the glory days, but also the dark time when disaster struck. Man U fans, do you know what February 6, 1958 means to the club? Do you know who Sir Matt Busby is? Etc Etc... What I am trying to say is that some fans takes the time and effort to elarn about the club, the history and everything else. ASk a Liverpool fan about April 15, 1989, or prior to that May 29, 1985. If they don't feel sad about it and tell you that these are things shouldn't happen in football, then tell them to look up the net.

It's not just the dark days, learning about the club helps you why the passion is rile between supporters? Why West Ham and the bubbles? Why Everton and Liverpool have such great rivalry? Bu learning about the club, it gives a different new meaning when supporting them, knwing the history will make you appreciate the future. There's nothing worst than sitting down in a pub and trying to talk to someone in a football shirt, only them saying that "I don't know much mate, I just like them". That, for me would be a disaster.

So fellas, if you are one of those who knows nothing about your club, try to learn or at least know something about it. Afterall, football existed long, ong before 1992 when the English Premier League was formed.